May 30, 2006
Trying Not to Count My Chickens Before I Even Own the Eggs
While you don’t want to start fantasizing about a big payday before you’ve even closed on the purchase of a flip, you have to think about the resale value and profit to come up with a budget for acquisition and repairs. To the right is a summary of the rough numbers I worked with to get to my original offer price. I’m hoping that every line is conservative and that I have a reasonable margin of error built in, but I have a feeling some of the numbers (like the rehab costs) might spiral out of control if I run into any unexpected expenses. On the other hand, I’m also hoping I low-balled a few numbers. The Target Sale Price, for example, was estimated based on the comps, but I have a (completely irrational) sense that the house is really going to shine when it’s all fixed up and break through the theoretical $399,000 ceiling in this neighborhood, maybe fetching something in the $410,000 - $425,000 range. Also, I’ve budgeted for 5% of the sales price to be lost in real estate broker commissions, but I’m contemplating going FSBO (For Sale By Owner) to pocket an extra ~$10,000. I feel like I’ve learned a lot over the course of the purchase process and could handle the logistics of selling the place myself, but who knows if I’ll be able to find a buyer on my own. I may go with a flat-fee service to get the place listed on the MLS and do some of my own internet marketing as well, but it might also be worthwhile to negotiate a discounted commission with my current broker and not take too many chances on my first project. At this point I’m just trying to convince myself that I would be happy with any four-figure (pre-tax) profit on my first project and treat anything below my target as invaluable experience bought at a discount.
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hassle on this project. It seems like a waste to have a formal dining room in such a small house and I think it would really brighten the whole first floor to open up the kitchen, but I know that costs can escalate quickly when you start changing structural items. I doubt there will be room in the budget or the schedule for this in the end, but it’s worth considering.
which projects would require a permit and how to go about getting one. He even suggested seeing if I could get the department supervisor to stop by the property and take a quick walk-through with me to get on his/her good side and perhaps smooth the process. Even as a novice I knew that it would probably be a bit of a fantasy to get a building official out to the property for sign-off on all my projects in a single visit, but I liked the idea and thought it couldn’t hurt to give it a shot.
the implications of this revelation, my heart immediately sank. My thoughts drifted to the small canal that runs behind all the houses on that street, imagining a torrential rain swelling the waters and submerging my very first investment property before I even have a chance to change a light bulb.
Everything has been going smoothly and I’m happy with the financing plan that we have set up (5% down 30-year fixed rate mortgage with zero out-of-pocket closing costs thanks to a 3% seller’s concession), but I had an odd conversation with the mortgage guy yesterday when I noted that he had checked the “Owner Occupied” box on the application forms. I believe I had told him that I live in NYC and would be working on the property during the week, so I wanted to clarify that he heard me correctly – even though I suspected he was giving me a break by filling in the owner occupied box so I would qualify for a wider range of programs. His response was a chilling mini-lecture on how it certainly is an owner occupied property (rib-rib nudge-nudge) and how all my other documents will of course reflect that as well. He then repeated that message, prefacing the statement with: “Just to be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR…”
morning and get some info on his experience and his billing structure. He sounded very much like a dry, lawyerly sort of guy based in Piscataway, NJ. That was fine with me, though, because I suppose it’s good to have a lawyerly-sounding lawyer. When asked about his experience he told me that he had been working on residential real estate transactions since 1975, joking that I was probably in diapers at that time. He also quoted me a flat fee of $850 – assuming no issues arise that will force him to spend an inordinate amount of time on my purchase (such as a title dispute). I don’t have much to compare this to, but it was less than the estimates I got from Manhattan lawyers that were referrals from friends. It was also in-line with what my agent estimated for the average fee on a residential purchase like mine, so I went ahead and hired the guy. Hopefully he will make a solid addition to my growing real estate investment team.
I did countless web searches for all varieties of real estate investment information in the months prior to the point when I was actually ready to seek out and purchase a run-down property. The limited (or weak, spammy, expensive and misleading) sites I found are part of what inspired me to start my own blog and develop a better forum for new and experienced investors to share their questions and insights. However, I never specifically searched the many existing blog directories for flipping and real estate investment materials over the course of this research. Only when I began submitting my own blog to the many directories and feed aggregators did I accidentally stumble across other blogs with a very similar mission.